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| #1 China Free on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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As you know in China the freedom to surf the internet is under the control of the Chinese authorities that limit the vision of many websites occidentali.Molti hackers around the world are attacked the various Chinese in protest then the giant Google only for purposes do pure business has agreed to the request of China to make its search engine rather than closed its great potential for research on the web, you guys seem fair? I think a lesson to google ..... a denial of service it deserves
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| #2 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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The government has every right to decide what is appropriate for it minions to be getting access too. It only right that google bow down to our chinese overlords, they know whats best. What gives you the right to question and criticise a countries leaders? have you ever ran a country before? What do you know about freedom anyway? freedom though work, thats the only true freedom.
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| #3 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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China is a country where many are denied the freedom to express ideas peacefully express freedom to surf the internet: a few years ago a Chinese boy of 17 years was surprised while watching some websites West was arrested and confined in this prison you call freedom? Google did not have to accept the limits imposed on research by the Chinese authorities is not fair
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| #4 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Google faced the issue of compromising or loosing a potential market. And the 17 year obviously deserved to be imprisoned; he broke the law. You act as if freedom is important - its not. freedom would lead to an undeserved sense of individualism, and we all know how disastrous that would be. You just have to do what your told, and everything will be fine.
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| #5 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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just every person is free to think whatever he wants but what do you think that is the freedom?
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| #6 Yoda Fan on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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I wouldn't like a government that limits my freedom of getting knowledge, because knowledge should be free and unlimited for everybody. Knowledge is power... And that's why the Chinese government doesn't want people to know, because they doesn't want people to have power.
Of course, I am not saying democracy (demos-people,crateo-I have power) is the best form of government. I really don't believe the power should be in all the people. If I am in an island with five retards and they vote for a leader, I will not obey that leader(except if that leader is me of course :p)... The majority of people are idiots so democracy doesn't work... I rather prefer an autocracy where I'm the leader or a government rule by a minority, like the Chinese government... Of course I would be part of that minority. In conclusion, Chinese government sucks because the smart people of China can't get the information they want and Democracy also sucks because the majority of the people are idiots and those idiots can vote... So my suggestion of a better form of government is to give people all the knowledge they want, but preventing idiots to vote... "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #7 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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were completely agree with you elfenix the world has done so those who govern is because someone has not voted for this should be the best, true knowledge is power for many in this world with the help of the internet can improve your own knowledge also if you know you too can learn the do evil
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| #8 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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I don't believe there's such thing as good knowledge and bad knowledge... I just think knowledge exist and then you have intention... When you have bad intentions you use your knowledge to destroy and when you have good intentions you use your knowledge to build... Nuclear fusion could lead us to an almost unlimited source of electric power, but that technology is easier to apply to mass destruction weapons... The main problem for the Chinese government isn't the fact that people is getting knowledge, the main problem is that people could use this knowledge to use it against the interests of the Chinese government and that's a pretty bad thing for them.
In conclusion, Chinese government is afraid of their people intentions... That's why they pretty much suck. "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #9 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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When a government limits freedoms, its the peoples job to rise up and revolt. It is never the right of a government to determine for its people what can and cannot be viewed.
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| #10 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Quote from mrdotkom When a government limits freedoms, its the peoples job to rise up and revolt. It is never the right of a government to determine for its people what can and cannot be viewed. Well, I'm completely agree with you, but of course it's easy to rise up when you're sure your government won't kill you or torture you... A revolt in France it's an easy task... But a revolt in China, where kids work in factories and human rights don't exist, it's a task of heroes, fools and suicidal people... "Prefiero morir en pie que vivir de rodillas"(I rather die standing than live on my knees) Beautiful phrase. Easy to say if you live in a country where human rights exist... But in a country like China... You need to be free. Yes, free like a man who have lost everything... A man who have lost everything is capable of doing anything because he doesn't has anything to lose. He just can lose his life for a beautiful ideal: revenge... That's the kind of men that can revolt against a government like China's... Hopeless men... "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #11 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Quote from mrdotkom When a government limits freedoms, its the peoples job to rise up and revolt. It is never the right of a government to determine for its people what can and cannot be viewed. lol... no. What you just said completely undermines the point in a government. People need to be told what to do. Do you actually think the majority of people are actually capable of thinking for themselves, actaully? Also, just to point out, If the government took away your freedom to say... kill, would you rise up and revolt? no? didn't think so. _('~')_/ how does it feel to be something on? |
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| #12 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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hello scankyfrank elfenix mrdotkom I find myself in agreement on what type it is easy for us to speak of freedom we live in countries where we can do almost everything but if one day when you wake up and exit the house and a soldier stops you and asks you who you are and see around and you realize that the soldiers are on the street and when you turn your computer is the computer you written what you suffered closed? I fight for my freedom I do not want to be an idiot in the crowd better to live one day that a life free from rabbit
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| #13 Yoda Fan on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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If my government ever takes away my freedom to say... I will move out... I don't know... to Australia... It seems a good and quiet country... If they won't let me move out... well I'll start to be violent...
The main reason that I would move out is because I've lost faith on my people. A month ago in Venezuela, my country, we vote if we were agree with the indefinite re-election. The majority of the people in my country vote yes... Hugo Chavez now can be re-elected indefinite... You might say we still live in a democracy... Well the majority of the parliament (90 percent) is on favour of Chavez, The Justice system is also on favour of Chavez... So he slowly gain all powers for himself. The people gave Chavez all the power he has right now through elections... Now he's slowly limiting the freedom of speech... I'm sure is a matter of time when he decides to censor the internet... You may ask "Will you fight?" and I'll aswer "No"... Why not? Well I'm deeply disappointed of my people... They're just a bunch of idiots... They deserve this president and they should fight against his government once they realise they are living in a autocracy... If they would have voted No in the past elections I would still believe in the people of my country... "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #14 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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You know what's happening in your country here in Australia via satellite transmits television sudamericana where Chavez appears frequente.Quello say it is right that the victory of Chavez in the elections is very similar to the victory of Filipino dictator occurred very recently in the country but are suao elections were rigged as I have done them rigged elections in Venezuela, where those who govern it wants to do that in your sempre.So pese there are people who are opposed to Chavez that they want to change things but when those who govern takes controlled newspapers and television deals with the positions of power it gets hard but if you want to change the things that you should strive to explain to people that together we can change the events if the government were to close the Internet so that you are a guy that we can do and manage to jump the barrier . you must not give in if you believe in something but continue to live with your idee.la people of Venezuela did not vote for Chavez and all when you see on television thousands of people have his speeches those involved are almost sure do not make but their will is the organization that Chavez leads in piazza.Anche I like lAustralia an infinite wonderful country to live is not bad
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| #15 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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I'm just mad with all the idiots in my country... We're about to live the worst economy crisis in years... I believe it will be thousand times worst than the USA or Europe economy crisis... So we are pretty much fuck*d... In a near future you'll see on TV riots against Chavez... We already have more than 20% of annual inflation... We are safe by now because we have some money of the barrels of petroleum we sold at 150$ each... But that money won't last forever...
Some people vote yes in the past elections because the government offer them 2000$... I hope those anti-patriotic scum bastards burn in hell... They'll be sorry for their choice... "Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #16 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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the global crisis that has hit almost all the world and the worst is yet to come will have the coseguenza of earning more money without money then invest in various sectors that could bring work to people who consequently have had a way to spend the money earned for move the market but when you know how the wealth should be a few things that can go wrong for people who has to deal all giorni.Spero that your country had a civil war would be the worst thing to fix things even here in Europe do not believe that things are fine industries closed and people did not find work posssibilità of our leaders on TV and in newspapers every day tell us that the crisis exists but there is to be feared because they emerge in recently, but people find it hard to get with the salary at the end of the month and like them in your country, people who have voted us believe politics is a nasty thing all promise nobody keeps promises fatte.Qui in Italy as in Europe many South Americans have come and many have found good living with their families working and their children go to school but now that the crisis has arrived they are the first to lose their jobs when they are immigrants from their countries in search of fortune do not believe that could expect to be worse here in Europe but unfortunately they are first to pay crisi.Mi like this that we keep in touch "ideas do not ever die" hello elfenix goin
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3l_f3n1x
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| #17 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Yes, politicians and economy suck... I'm planning on funding a small village in the wilds here in Venezuela and go live there. Wanna join me in my humble quest? xD
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #18 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Commies.
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3l_f3n1x
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| #19 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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Yes... exactly... those f*cking commies... they just don't realize that ideal doesn't work... It failed in Russia, it failed in Cuba and it's failing in Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua among others...
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof." - V BTW: My username was elfenix |
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| #20 on 01/01/1970 00:00 | |
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What does work?
Look at the debt we Americans are in now.
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